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Wheaton Revival Oral History Excerpts

Here are brief excerpts from some of the oral history interviews in the Billy Graham Center Archives about the 1995 Wheaton Revival

Click here to read a brief history of the revival, which will be helpful in understanding some of the excerpts.l





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Interview with a junior class man



INTERVIEWEE: Something they did last night, at the very beginning they had a guy come up and give a testimony about his...struggle with secular music. And then he had to just get rid of it all, and he couldn't hold on to the signs of his sins or the temptations. So then he brought down his CDs and dumped them on the stage and said, "Let's just start a pile here. No questions asked. The administration won't ask questions about the pledge or anything tonight. If you have something in your room or wherever that is holding you down, that is going to tempt you when you get back, bring it here and we'll destroy it. We'll set all this stuff free.... So all through the night [people brought material].... A guy brought his credit card and tore it and I thought that was really interesting.... A lot of stuff in brown paper bags [chuckles]. Things I guess people put there but didn't really feel like advertising.... I expect there was a lot of alcohol. I won't be surprised if there were a lot of magazines.

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Interview with a Wheaton College staff person who acted a counselor during the revival.



INTERVIEWER: Was there any kind of sense of "This might be the night" among WCF [World Christian Fellowship] people...?

INTERVIEWEE: Well, I mean, I know...I know the kids wanted revival, but since around '87 or '88, it seems to me, classes have...almost consistently there's been a core group in each class praying for revival. And in...I'm almost sure it's school year '88/'89, a group of like forty to sixty of us spent every Tuesday fasting at lunchtime and praying for revival. And while little things happened here and there, nothing this happened. So I think in a sense, yes, students were hoping for revival, but I don't think anybody had any idea of what was going to happen. I mean, hope in that abstract sense, but I don't think it was real concrete.

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I don't truthfully know who the next one up was, but soon after there was a coed, and she had to wait quite a while to speak, even though she was far up in the line, because things keep interrupting, that was obviously in a lot of pain.... And with tears streaming down her face she was...she was confessing because she said she needed the freedom from the sin but she also wanted the assurance that God could still use her life [pauses], you know, and was there really forgiveness. And I really think that that just like unleashed the floodgates, because it was such a brave thing for her to do. And I went...I was in the second row, so I popped up and went over and some of the other students were there. By this point it was beginning...the habit of students praying for each one individual was beginning to happen. And all of a sudden then there were a number of girls with similar, maybe not exactly matching, stories on the floor and there was a lot of crying and repenting and prayer. And I...I think probably...I lost track of time, but I would guess we were on the floor for a good two hours with people wandering around us. But it went very deep then. It wasn't...it was something that was very...it just made her so vulnerable, but I think she enabled everybody else to be vulnerable too. ....But just the agony on her face and just that desire to get right with God was so strong, that I think it just...it just gave everybody permission to be honest.

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Interview with a junior class man who was in charge of music during the revival meetings.



INTERVIEWER: Do you recall the conversations of the planning to bring them[two students from Howard Payne College who spoke about the revival on their campus.]?

INTERVIEWEE: I do. I remember the first time that this even surfaced as a possibility was on the Thursday preceding our spring break. I don't remember the exact date of that. ....March 2, that's right. So on the second, that was our normal time for our WCF cabinet meeting. Many of us were preoccupied, I can remember, with spring break plans, getting ready to leave campus the next day or Saturday, when [the WCF president] and Doug O'Donnell, both of whom were in Dr. Beougher's History of Revival class, began sharing with us what Dr. Beougher had shared with them, specifically about the...the revival and the great awakening taking place in Texas, specifically with regard to Howard Payne University. And during that time they also mentioned that Dr. Beougher had made the offer to personally pay for the two round trip tickets for two students to come up and share at WCF, not necessarily on the nineteenth, which is when they came, but possibly maybe a week or two later. And I can remember as Matt and Doug suggested this, the reaction of most of the cabinet was...was really, I'd probably say one of contained excitement mixed with considerable amounts of skepticism, simply because of the red tape that would be involved, the fact that there was already a tentative program planned for that evening, several panel...possible panel speakers had already been contacted and requested to share that night on the barriers to mission, which was the proposed topic. And we just...we were really skeptical that that would...that this could ever come to be a reality. And as we discussed this somewhat, Dr. Beougher walked in, [laughs] and we were...most of us on the cabinet were not even aware that he had been asked to come or was even aware that we were meeting. And he had a very calming influence, I think, on us, because we realized from his perspective that he had thought...this was not a spur-of-the-moment shot-in-the-dark idea he had had. It had been something he had thought through, and he presented the historical significance of it, simply that in the past God had chosen to bring revival to pl...to new places by working through people who had experienced personal renewal and revival in their own lives. And at that point, suddenly for me personally, this all began to take on the aspect of something that could conceivably happen. And it was exciting to me. I remember that we, after discussing it a little bit more, the pros and cons, why would we have them come through WCF as opposed to going through the Chaplain's office and possibly sharing in chapel, and Dr. Beougher was very good in explaining that it was not an attempt to...to get around the Chaplain's office, but rather just the...simply the logistics of the fact that chapel is being planned at times years in advance. The practicality of having students and there's just very little flexibility in changing chapel schedules, whereas WCF, we experience a lot more flexibility, not only of programming but also simply of timewise. We can...we have the freedom to go over if...if that's the way the Spirit seems to be leading. So we just sat down and just prayed it out. And we said, "Lord, if this is something that you want to happen, you are going to have to overcome all the barriers, of people who could conceivably stand in the way," and basically left it at that, because we were all going off on spring break, so we weren't even going to be around for a week to see if any of this would...to try to help push this through or whatnot. So at that point, I think that was a key moment, because that really became a point of faith, where it was thrown over onto God's shoulders completely, because we had...there was no way that any of us would be able to see that through. And I remember coming back from spring break. And I went...I went on spring break with three of my housemates, and right at the beginning I shared with them this possibility and asked them to be in prayer with me about it, that if it was definitely something that God wanted to do, he would do. And at this point, I suppose I...I have to confess a real lack of faith, because when I came back from spring break I was hoping that these students would be able to come, and yet at the same time thinking they wouldn't. I remember that Monday morning walking into the Office of Christian Outreach and going over to check my box. And I remember the thing that was on top in my box was just a very simple photocopied piece of paper written originally probably in magic marker, some thick black pen that said, "The students from Texas are coming. Praise the Lord." Or something to that extent. Very concise, very to the point. And I remember just being incredibly excited, and I was literally jumping up and down and I ran into Kevin Engel's office, and I said, "Is this really true? Has this really happened?" And he said, "Well, yes it is."

INTERVIEWER: Do you recall when sort of your perception of the meeting changed from "This is what I hope happens" to "This is what's happening."

INTERVIEWEE: I remember the specific time that I knew that it was going to be different. I'd already kind of had this feeling all evening. But when we came, the worship time was amazing, I mean, partly because the acoustics in Pierce [Chapel] are wonderful for congregational singing, I mean, and...but it was so loud and so vibrant.

INTERVIEWER: Now this was at the beginning?

INTERVIEWEE: This was at the beginning, this was at the beginning. And it this time it was still "I hope this happens, but I'm not sure." And then...and also because I didn't know, no one really knew James [Hahn] and Brandy [McGuire]. And no one had ever seen them share in front of people before, and we didn't have the slightest idea what their communica...I mean, one on one communication was great, but we didn't know what they would be like in front of people. And I tell you, they stood up and they were anointed by the Holy Spirit. They spoke clearly and articulately and expressed very well what God had done in them and in their school, but at the same time challenged us and saying, "Hey, God can do the same thing here, but it involves confession." And I remember the point when I knew that things were going to be drastically different was as soon as they open...as they said, "Okay, the mikes are open," even before Matt finished introducing that time, there were already six or seven students standing up and making their way forward. And at that point I knew this was going to be different. I mean, this isn't...because normally we haven't...we have two or three open mikes times a year at WCF, and usually they'll introduce the time and then we'll sit there for about twenty or thirty seconds, and one person will stand up and go to a mike and share, go back and sit down. And, you know, you'll wait another twenty or thirty seconds, someone else will stand up. But, I mean, this time it was as though those people were propelled forward. Before the time was even done being introduced they were up, out of their seats, and standing in line to share.

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INTERVIEWER: That makes me wonder how...you know, for somebody who was in line [waiting to make their confession], and then had to wait for twenty-four hours, or I suppose in the case of Sunday night to Monday night, it was more like twelve, fifteen.

INTERVIEWEE: Fifteen.

INTERVIEWER: Was that hard on people?

INTERVIEWEE: I'm sure it was. I'm sure that that was...that was definitely difficult. But at that point the people hearing the confessions were so exhausted, those who were left, which by that point, probably a hundred fifty, two hundred maybe, that it became more detrimental than beneficial. And I think Kevin and Matt both made the decision, together with Dr. Beougher, Dr. Dorsett, to...Ruth Bamford, Dr. Kellough as well, to...to cut it off at 6:00 [a.m.] and reconvene was a very wise decision. It...it gave people time to maybe catch a few hours of sleep, and also to...to prepare, because as people were confessing, others would gather around them and pray for them, which was also one of the most moving things to me, was that...and a lot of that was without being asked. It just happened. And ministering...people ministering to each other at times out of their own brokenness and..and supporting each other. Real demonstration of the way the body of Christ should work. And those people...people...prayer is hard work, and it...when it's been going on all night, you become exhausted. I mean, I speak for myself. I would put my head down on the pew in front of me to pray and I'd wake up five minutes later. And it was just exhausting. And not only was it physically exhausting, but you're dealing with deep emotions and you're dealing with...with every aspect of your being, I mean, physically, emotionally, spiritually, and it's draining. It's as draining for those confessing as it is for those who are being confessed to. And I think it was wiser all the way around, while I'm sure it caused some anxiety on the part of people who felt they had to wait that much longer. But the point being, I think the breaking point is once you get in line and once you make the move and the step to get into line, that was people saying, "I realize I need to confess." And once that's...that in itself in some ways is already an act of repentance. And I think that then it was just a matter of "Yes, I need to wait, but it's coming."

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...There was a place on stage designated for people to bring things that God had convicted them of that was keeping them from God, things ranging from CDs to drugs to alcohol, pornography, everything you can imagine. We had garbage bags full every night to get rid of. But...so I ripped up my credit card and put that on that pile. And God really spoke to me about how that was an area of discipline that needed to be instilled in my life.

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It was still "I hope this happens, but I'm not sure." And...no one really knew James and Brandy. And no one had ever seen them share in front of people before.... We didn't know what they would be like in front of people. And I tell you, they stood up and they were anointed by the Holy Spirit. They spoke clearly and articulately and expressed very well what God had done in them and in their school, but at the same time challenged us and saying, "Hey, God can do the same thing here, but it involves confession." And I remember the point when I knew that things were going to be drastically different...as they said, "Okay, the mikes are open." Even before [the WCF president] finished introducing that time, there were already six or seven students standing up and making their way forward.... We have two or three open mike times a year at WCF, and usually they'll introduce the time and then we'll sit there for about twenty or thirty seconds, and one person will stand up and go to a mike and share, go back and sit down. And, you know, you'll wait another twenty or thirty seconds, someone else will stand up. But, I mean, this time it was as though those people were propelled forward.

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Interview with a local pastor who works with college students.



INTERVIEWEE: Every Sunday night my wife and I...have an open house and it runs from 9 to 11pm. And we normally get between fifteen and thirty students come in on a Sunday evening. But we had only had two people show up and they were both graduates. So I said to the male graduate student..., "Let's head over to Pierce [Chapel, where WCF held their meetings], see what's going on." So we walked in there at nine...and found out that thirty-five minutes before, microphones had been opened for people to come forward [to] offer confession of sin.... So I just stood in the back and I watched this thing going on.... After midnight and a thinning of the crowd, it was all business and it remained as such until six am [when the WCF leadership ended the meeting, to reconvene the next night]. There was a profound sense of sobriety... that descended over the chapel. The confessions...I...I have to admit, I don't know how...Biblical it all was. The confessions were lurid and I know the Bible talks about how it is shameful to disclose the things that are done in secret.... But I like what [another minister told him] on the telephone,..."Well, anything of this nature is messy." ....You'd have a person at one mike on the south side of Pierce, the south side of the stage, making confession. And you might have a group of people huddled, kneeling...directly in front of him in prayer for a person. You might have another group just outside the double doors behind the person making confession huddled in prayer. You might have another group on the other side of the auditorium doing the same thing but singing and providing, as it were, background music for the confessor. And then there were people along the back wall that were in pairs and triples and groups of larger numbers praying.

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Interview with a freshman class man.



INTERVIEWER: Some of the confessions were pretty long and some of them were pretty quick. One guy...started talking about how...he was a senior and he had known these people for four years and he had been around these people every day of those four years and they talked and they joked around, but he never really got to know them and he was basically confessing that, asking for forgiveness for not getting deeper in the relationship with them..., for being superficial. A lot of things confessed had to do with pride and a lot had to do with lust.

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Interview with a freshman class woman



INTERVIEWER: Did the WCF leaders envision what happened at the meeting?

INTERVIEWEE: I think that they kind of thought that it might. So they just felt that what these students [from Howard Payne University] would have to say would move other people.... They weren't sure what was going to happen, but they felt that they needed to make it available if it was going to happen....

INTERVIEWER: Do you remember your feelings as it started to unfold?

INTERVIEWEE: Kind of...not really. I guess it has been a long three days! [laughs] I think that it was a little scary at first.... I didn't know how to feel, just because that these people, people that I know, people that I look at and think, "They have things really together," or that they would never come up and say anything, were getting up and making confessions of sin that I couldn't believe they were saying. Some people just confessing the most intimate of sins and just being very real.... So that was pretty amazing to me that these people would get up and admit that they were not as perfect as they would like other people to believe. And it was really moving to see.

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Interview with a graduate student.



INTERVIEWEE: I serve on the Grad Council and at the very beginning of this school year that is one of the things that we really discussed, "How can we get interaction between undergrads and grads? What can we do?" God has done that. We tried different activities. Nothing seemed to be working.... But since [the revival], I know undergraduates and they know me. I see other undergrads and when we go to WCF, there's not this little pocket of grad students as opposed to undergrads. And there is really this community. That wall has been broken.

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Interview with a senior class man.



INTERVIEWEE: It [the Thursday evening celebration] was an amazing experience. I'll take that with me. That's what I'll take with me, is that experience of worship that night. Not that it was an experience that I was seeking, but it was just the ability to praise God with a cleansed heart with the rest of the community, and the deep-seated desire to thank him for just such an incredible blessing that he poured out on our campus in healing of the students here, and the faculty, I'm sure. And a result of that is just a renewed desire to share God with people. You know, you're supposed to be motivated by your love of God to evangelize, and sometimes I just don't feel like I am. I feel like I have to convince people that they need God. But it's when you experience his presence like that, and you realize just...you get a glimpse of how wonderful he really is, I feel like we were all motivated by a desire to share him with others.

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INTERVIEWER: What did you think when he [Lyle Dorsett] called you?

INTERVIEWEE: Oh, it was crazy. I was...I'd...he'd called me on a...I think he called me on a Friday, but I'd run into him on Wednesday right before class, and he said something about having received a call from Asbury. And that's all he said. He was running out of [the] BGC [Billy Graham Center building] . And he said something like "Asbury wants some students to come" or something like that. ....But as he said that...I was with a couple other students and he didn't direct it to any one of us; he just sort of said it. But I felt, you know, that sense of like, uhhh, in my...inside. I thought, "You're gonna go to Asbury." I just felt a burden for the students at Asbury. And it was...it was real enough that in the class that I went to after he said that, I kept asking [the student] who was sitting next to me, you, "Can you show me your notes," because I kept thinking about what kinds of things I would say if I were to go to Asbury. And then I even told her and we, you know, kind of wondered about it afterwards. You know, I said, "Do you remember when I told you, 'I just feel like a burden for Asbury.'" I had told her that right in class. And then (that was on a Wednesday) and either the next day or the Friday after that Wednesday he called and asked me. And so when he asked me I just said, "Yes, of course." Because I...I just sort of felt like I knew I was gonna go. And there was a real sense of fear in going because...not because of the public speaking thing. I really don't get nervous about that very much. But just the responsibility of trying to articulate what had happened just really weighed heavily on my mind. And the thought of a college community that was needing revival, and just the weight that could be released if God were to bring revival. I didn't feel like it was my responsibility to bring it, but I just realized that we were talking about a serious thing, that serious lives could be changed if revival were to come to Asbury in the same way that it came to Wheaton. And so I was burdened by it.... I'd run into him [Dr. Lyle Dorsett, professor and a leader in the awakening] on Wednesday right before class.... And he said something like, "Asbury wants some students to come," or something like that. ....He didn't direct it to any one of us; he just sort of said it.... I thought, "You're gonna go to Asbury. I just felt a burden for the students at Asbury.... And there was a real sense of fear in going...not because of the public speaking thing.... But just the responsibility of trying to articulate what had happened just really weighed heavily on my mind. And the thought of a college community that was needing revival, and just the weight that could be released if God were to bring revival. I didn't feel like it was my responsibility to bring it, but I just realized that we were talking about a serious thing, that...lives could be changed if revival were to come to Asbury in the same way that it came to Wheaton. And so I was burdened by it.

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Interview with a Wheaton College staff member who led a team of student to Florida to minister to inmates in Florida prisons the week before the Wheaton revival. He described a session of confession that broke out among these students.



INTERVIEWEE: I'll tell you the thing that I think I'm gonna remember the most, and I don't know what it means to me yet because it's too close. I think I...I will always remember that my first emotional reaction was one of fear, not joy. That...that somehow....

INTERVIEWER: That's Biblical isn't it? The first...the first thing an angel says when he...every angel in the Bible says when he appears to a human is, "Fear not."

INTERVIEWEE: I...I appreciate your saying that because...and you're right. I felt guilty about it. I felt guilty about it the next morning because I thought when these, you know, experiences happen, we're supposed to be joyful and thankful, and I just remember all these human thoughts of going, "Oh, my my gosh, everything's collapsed. Things are going wrong. A woman over here is having a nervous breakdown. Gotta get...I have to get...." You know one of the words in my mind was "control." "I gotta get control back. And this meeting's suppose to end by 11. Now how am I going to finish this by eleven." And so that, you know, there was some guilt there, but I guess there's some irony there too. It's kind of like now that over a month has gone by I have a sense of humor about it. It's like, you know, you are still very, very weak and very, very human because even when the Lord does...does come along and does these out of the ordinary things, your first response is extremely human. You know, you're not overjoyed, you're not excited, you're just frightened, mad. Something's going to hurt your program, you know, something very, very...very human. And I think that's a good lesson for me too. I...I think it's good to remember that...I think a part of all roles.... I don't mean this in a bad way, but I think a part of all our roles is a bit of playacting. I meet with people like you do. I made a lot of appointments the other day. Well, you know, getting into that, I'm tired sometimes. I look at my appointment calendar and have an appointment I forgot I had. I'm not overjoyed to have this person come in, but I...I'm nice, I'm gracious. But part of that, I guess, to use the right word, is a bit of pretending. I mean I smile, I say, "I'm happy to meet you." Inwardly I wish I were going home early. And...and I don't mean that in a bad way. I don't mean it in a hypocritical way, except that over the years like anything, working here at the Billy Graham Center, a lot becomes rote. I mean a lot becomes, you go through the motions. I attend a lot of meetings. Sometimes I'm tuned in, sometimes I'm tuned out.... But...but it...it's nice when you have those moments where you kind of get a kick and you wake up and you say, well who're really in charge of this whole thing anyway, you know. It's helped me, you know, during my recent trips like, you know. Coming back from California's kind of long, you know, four hour plane trip. And I used to have these thoughts 'cause we...we had a...we had a bad plane landing when I came back from L.A. I won't go into the story, but I think we nearly had a crash. And...and it...and those are the kinds of things where you don't think about until after it happened. When it happens you just kind of go along with it. But then walking through the terminal ten minutes later I realized, "That was almost a crash and I...I mean I could be dead right now." And I think what was different about thinking that thought about a week ago was that when I used to think that years ago (not that I had many near crashes) I would go, "Are my files in shape. Will somebody be able to assume the institute and know where I was and...and will they carry it on and do the right things, "you know. Now it's kind of like, God's in control anyway, and you know, the world will go on with or without me. If the institute is supposed to go on for the future, then the will of God wants it to. If it's supposed to end at some point, then it will. And again, it's...it's kind of a relaxed thing. I just feel , hey, God's in control, and I worry about a lot of things I shoudln't worry about. It's been a...I spend too much time worrying about things that just in the bigger picture seem inconsequential.

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Interview with a senior class man, a leader in the World Christian Fellowship.<

br> INTERVIEWER: Could you briefly describe what went into getting the fellows [one female and one male student] up from Howard Payne?

INTERVIEWEE: Sure. Let me talk to you about what Charles Finney calls a converging of Providences, Charles Finney being that great revivalist preacher of the last century. I had just finished a course with Dr. Beougher in...in the MA department in evangelism, a course entitled History and Theology of Revival. And on the last day of that course, which was the Thursday before the...the first quad, A quad, ended this spring, so that would have been just a few weeks ago, right before spring break, there was kind of an excitement in class, because we had heard about the revival that had happened at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary as a result of some Howard Payne students coming by and giving their testimony of how God had worked on their campus. Students had faxes in their hands from friends. Dr. Beougher was excited because it was his alma mater, and he had already got a call from a friend. So that brought kind of an exciting conclusion to our class, a practical and real life experience that we could look at after studying the history and theology of revivals. During that class period, Dr. Beougher turned to me and he said, "Matt, not to put any pressure on you, but you're the chair of WCF this year, and," he said, "I feel like WCF is one of the most spiritually sensitive places on campus. And I feel like there are students there who would be very receptive to hearing a testimony of something like this." He said, "If you are willing or would like to, I just want you to know, I'd be willing to back...of flying a couple of students up here." So that was our one providence that I felt converging....

A second converging of providences that I saw just from my own perspective was that over spring break I had the responsibility of reading a five-hundred page book by Charles Finney called Revivals of Lec...or Lectures on Revival. I didn't realize, have any idea at that point what was coming down the pike, but I was sure int.... So during spring break you can imagine the thoughts that were going through my mind and all the things I was thinking about. It certainly was...seemed like another converging of providence that I had to go through all that training at that point, as far as what to do during a revival, stuff like that.

When we came back...during spring break, let me say, Kevin Engel, who is the...currently the Assistant Director in the Office of Christian Outreach, had...he is my advisor for the ministry. And it's important that everything that I do and that the cabinet decides that has an effect on campus, that he be involved in. And so we have a close working relationship as well as a good friendship. He has...was very very open. He talked to Tim Beougher about...about what this stuff was really all about, since he didn't know a lot about the history and theology of revival, but he was open to our cabinet's decision, and he helped to facilitate us. If that hadn't happened, we would have not been able to invite the students. That there is another converging of providence, because that's somewhat of a risky business, for an administrator to do what he did. That was something, I think, is very praiseworthy of Kevin Engel to take a step of faith like he did.

When...during spring break, Kevin Engel and I then, after the final decision had been made to at least try to invite the Howard Payne students, we had to do some long distance phone calling. I was on the East Coast visiting my grandparents. He was on the West Coast visiting his family and his grandparents. And the students themselves were in Texas on spring break. So we had to coordinate a lot of stuff over the phone during our own spring breaks, but...including air fare and that kind of thing. Ended up that it was a go, so the students were coming. So when we came back we knew that they were coming and we had one week to prepare for the evening of WCF on that Sunday night. So that's...that's more my perspective of the converging of providences.

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INTERVIEWER: Of those students who still were sitting in the pews, were...were they listening to person making confession? Were they praying?

INTERVIEWEE: That's a good point, a good question. Throughout all the evenings we repeated certain directives to those who were listening.

INTERVIEWER: Okay.

INTERVIEWEE: Just general things that needed to be repeated, but that were good.

INTERVIEWER: Like?

INTERVIEWEE: One was that you can be praying for these people. But it was interesting to me, especially on Sunday evening as it got so late (or early) toward six o'clock a.m., many students who...several of the students who got up to confess sins said, "I just want to thank you people who are staying here to hear me." You know, so I think that the students who sat in the pews listening, you know, and even Chaplain Steve being there all night, you know, just the...sitting there listening was a ministry. It was necessary that...that the confessors have a body to confess to. And so quite a few of them when it was really late thanked those who were there. And I thought that was special.... Have you already heard the story about the confiscation of goods, you know the students bringing goods?

INTERVIEWER: Yeah, some have mentioned that. Who...how did that start? That's....

INTERVIEWEE: Basically, it was either my idea, [pauses] but I don't think it was. I think it was a student's idea, who said, "Why don't we do this, you know. Why don't...I think there's a lot of students with stuff back in their rooms that's going to cause them to stumble the second they get back there on the commitments they just made. Why don't we give them the opportunity to bring it up here and put it right here on the stage." Yeah, now that I think about it, I...I'm positive and I remember that it was a student who suggested that. So I got up and I read Scripture from the Old Testament where God told the children of Israel to uttterly destroy the cities they were conquering. And the reason he wanted them to utterly destroy those cities was because he knew that the things that they would find there would cause them to stumble. And I also quoted the New Testament example of...the Acts example of people burning the stuff that...the sorcery materials, etc. And then I just said, "Why don't you...if you have things in your room right now that you know or that you feel the Spirit is leading you to get rid of or that you know are going to cause you to stumble, why don't you just go get those right now and bring up here and put them on the stage, and we'll take care of them for you." So that...Monday night, the young men carried five garbage bags full of hundreds of CDs, I think, and tons more of other stuff, which you...you'll be able to find in other records of this event. But it was a...an amazing testimony to what seems to be a permanent work of God in these students' lives. And it...that happened every night after that. Not as much stuff came in, but stuff kept coming.


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